RTC SWG report post SA4#134
The RTC SWG held two adhoc calls post SA4#134 with 15 input contributions and 24 participants in the first adhoc, and 10 input contributions and 30 attendees in the second adhoc. Two tdocs were agreed.
S4aR250216 - Scope in Light of SA2 LS
The group discussed the scope following the SA2 liaison response. Key decisions:
S4aR260004/S4aR260014 - Call Flow for Device Inferencing
Joint contribution from Samsung and InterDigital. After extensive discussion:
Key discussion points:
- Model sizes can be significant (e.g., 80 MB), requiring consideration of download time and network impact
- Application metadata would indicate supported tasks; JavaScript in application can check UE capabilities
- MF acts as HTTP proxy and can cache
- Need for both UE-side and network-side caching solutions
- Partial model updates and model compression need to be addressed
S4aR250205 - Call Flow for Device Inferencing (Samsung)
Initial proposal that was merged into S4aR260004. Noted for further work.
S4aR260007 - Call Flow for Device Inferencing Update (InterDigital)
Discussion focused on:
- Clarification needed on whether this replaces normal BDC bootstrap procedures
- Terminology should be moderated to clarify high-level stage 2 description
- Protocol details need refinement
S4aR250206 - Call Flow for Network Inferencing
Noted. Needs update to reflect inferencing on DC AS instead of MF. Questions raised about model download source (DCAR vs DC AS).
S4aR250207/S4aR260008 - Call Flow for Split Inferencing
Noted. Similar to network inferencing but for split scenarios. Needs update to have split inferencing on DC AS rather than MF. Parameters in request/response messages need synchronization with other proposals.
S4aR250218 - Update Call Flow for Local/Remote/Split AIML Inferencing (InterDigital)
Noted. Needs update due to MF/DC AS changes. Proposed two data channels: one for configuration and one for data exchange. Terminology modifications needed for steps 1 and 3.
S4aR250208 - On AI Application Tasks and Subtasks
Noted. Discussion on whether to use subtask concept or stay with application/task/model terminology. Clarity needed on subtask definition before adoption.
S4aR250209/S4aR260006 - AI/ML Media Processing and Task Updating (Nokia)
Noted. Addresses task reselection and task update scenarios:
- Task update vs. new task may require different procedures
- Distinction between updating a model vs. adding new capabilities (e.g., translation language)
- In P2P case, may need application data channel
- Clarification needed on whether "network functions" refers to MF or other entities
S4aR250211 - Adaptive Model Delivery (Nokia)
Noted. Proposes two cases:
1. Standard model delivery
2. Adaptive delivery with MF as proxy
Discussion points:
- Need clarification on model selection process (UE, user, or other entity)
- Low precision and incremental model updates need more description
- Make model update optional in second case
S4aR250213/S4aR260011 - On Application Manifest for AIML Applications (Nokia)
Noted. Proposes JSON format for application manifest with metadata. Needs alignment with other contributions. Email discussion to be triggered on this topic.
S4aR260009/S4aR260012 - Negotiation Messages (InterDigital)
Noted. Proposes metadata for negotiation messages. Questions raised:
- Where will application info format be used?
- Are we defining a new DC protocol?
- Motivation is to identify what metadata needs to be considered
S4aR260010 - Negotiation Messages for Split Inferencing
Noted. Needs revision to sync with basic call flows.
S4aR260005 - On NNC Decoding in Web Environment (Fraunhofer HHI, Nokia)
Noted. Discussion on Neural Network Coding (NNC) decoder in web environment. No alternative decoder currently available. Comparison document to be shared on differences.
S4aR250215 - Discussion on TS
Agreed to add an annex to TS 26.114 and prepare CR accordingly. Consensus for smaller scope with annex in 26.114 rather than separate specification.
S4aR250217/S4aR250220 - Draft CR on AIML Processing in IMS Calls
Noted. Will be developed as CR to TS 26.114 based on agreed scope.
S4aR250212 - Draft TR 26.823
Noted. Presented for information. Issues identified:
- No revision marks and incorrect version number
- Missing agreed document numbers in change history
- Style conformance issues
- Skeleton was only agreed in closing plenary
Expected revision for next adhoc with:
- Change marks
- ETSI style compliance
- Agreed documents listed in annex
- Correct version number
S4aR250219 - Evaluation Testing Strategy Proposal (InterDigital)
Noted. Discussion points:
- Network impairment testing vs. in-the-field testing needs more work
- No need to limit to one evaluation platform
- RTT measurement possible also for QUIC
- Need details on "specific" platform and parameter sources
- Which specific application for AI testing
- Hard to set up OPs for OTT; need reference platform with control
- Joint meeting with other evaluation/studies to develop common evaluation framework
- Reference to 26.955 for joint discussion
- QoE metrics handling needs resolution
S4aR250210/S4aR250221 - Draft Work Plan for FS_Q4RTC_MED
Agreed (S4aR250221). Discussion points:
- Note on normative work to be triggered before end of study
- Evaluation work needs alignment with other studies
- Need clear item in timeplan on common evaluation framework
- Coordination with QStream starting from Goa meeting
- Careful on "common" aspects as different tools may be needed
S4aR260001/S4aR260013 - Overview of QUIC-based Media Delivery Protocols (Nokia)
Noted (S4aR260013). Good base document. Comments to be provided by email on requirements and other aspects.
S4aR260003 - Draft TR 26.836 v0.0.1 (Skeleton) (NTT, Nokia)
Noted. Issues identified:
- Clause 4.2.3 number missing
- Some existing content can be moved to annex
- Pros and cons need clarification (for RTC or general?)
- Introduction/title of 5.3: F→Functional
- Consider including evaluation under each application scenario
- Version number needs offline check with Andrijana
First Adhoc Call:
- Date: December 17, 2025, 14:00-16:21 CET
- Host: Nokia
- 15 input contributions, 24 participants
Second Adhoc Call:
- Date: January 28, 2026, 15:00-17:15 CET
- Host: Nokia
- 10 input contributions, 30 attendees
Minutes taken by Gaëlle Martin-Cocher (first adhoc) and Bo Burman/Shane He (second adhoc).