Reply LS on traffic model for immersive communication
Source: vivo Mobile Communication Co.,
Meeting:
TSGS4_135_India
Agenda Item:
5.2
| Agenda item description | Other 3GPP groups |
|---|---|
| Doc type | LS out |
| For action | Agreement |
| Abstract | SA4 has discussed the RAN1 LS R1-2509596 and would like to provide the following information on... |
| Release | Rel-20 |
| download_url | Download Original |
| To | R1-2509596 |
| For | Agreement |
| Type | LS out |
| Contact | Wang Dong |
| Uploaded | 2026-02-03T13:43:09.983000 |
| Contact ID | 107237 |
| TDoc Status | revised |
| Reservation date | 03/02/2026 12:50:36 |
| Agenda item sort order | 7 |
Review Comments
1) Technical Accuracy
1.1 Packet size parameterization is inconsistent (bytes vs bits)
1.2 Inter-arrival model conflicts with “silent periods do not need to be modeled”
1.3 Quantization to multiples of M is underspecified and may distort the distribution
1.4 Parameter plausibility: λ=0.015 (per ms) implies ~66.7 ms mean IAT (before min/quantization)
1.5 “Jitter follows TR 38.838 clause 5.1.1.2” is likely misapplied/unclear
1.6 PDB and Packet Success Rate are stated without defining the reliability metric
1.7 Aggregation principle may be invalid depending on channel semantics
2) Completeness
2.1 Missing definition of the use case and trace conditions
2.2 No goodness-of-fit or validation results
2.3 Missing correlation model details
2.4 Missing burst/active-silent modeling despite stating silence can be ignored
2.5 Uplink model reuse is too hand-wavy
2.6 Missing explicit reference to the “eXR model with Haptics”
3) Impact Assessment (on specs and implementations)
3.1 Potential misalignment with existing XR traffic models in TR 38.838
3.2 Aggregation assumption can under/over-estimate scheduler stress
3.3 Reliability/PDB values could steer RAN conclusions incorrectly
4) Feasibility (practical implementability)
4.1 Implementable but underspecified
4.2 Correlation option is not implementable as stated
4.3 Reusing TR 38.838 uplink model is feasible, but may be invalid
5) Weaknesses (argumentation and methodology)
6) Suggestions for Improvement
6.1 Fix the formal model definitions (must-do)
6.2 Provide trace context and reproducibility hooks
6.3 Add goodness-of-fit and alternative models
6.4 Define “silence” handling properly
6.5 Make correlation actionable
6.6 Clarify QoS interpretation of PDB and success rate
6.7 Uplink model mapping justification
Bottom line
The contribution is directionally useful as a liaison response, but the proposed downlink haptics model contains unit errors, distribution-definition inconsistencies, and insufficient specification detail to be safely adopted by RAN1 for comparative studies. Strengthening the statistical justification, clarifying silence/correlation handling, and making the model fully reproducible would materially improve its technical value and reduce the risk of divergent interpretations in RAN1 evaluations.